{"id":3722,"date":"2022-10-19T14:02:55","date_gmt":"2022-10-19T14:02:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/electoralsupportprogramme.mk\/?p=3722"},"modified":"2022-11-03T08:42:34","modified_gmt":"2022-11-03T08:42:34","slug":"interview-dimitrievska","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/electoralsupportprogramme.mk\/sq\/interview-dimitrievska\/","title":{"rendered":"Intervist\u00eb me Dimitrievska: \u00e7do problem ka nj\u00eb zgjidhje \u2013 nevojitet aktivizim i grave dhe veprim i organizuar"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Daniella Dimitrievska, drejtoresh\u00eb e Lobit t\u00eb grave Maqedonis\u00eb, e cila ka organizuar m\u00eb shum\u00eb se 250 seminare p\u00ebr politikane dhe audienca t\u00eb tjera n\u00eb tema q\u00eb kan\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb me t\u00eb drejtat e grave dhe ngritjen e kapaciteteve si p\u00ebr individ\u00eb ashtu edhe p\u00ebr p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsues t\u00eb institucioneve. Ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb autore e m\u00eb shum\u00eb se 30 manualeve. \u00cbsht\u00eb lobiste p\u00ebr pjes\u00ebmarrje t\u00eb balancuar t\u00eb t\u00eb dy gjinive n\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha ndryshimet e deritanishme t\u00eb Kodit zgjedhor dhe p\u00ebr k\u00ebto merita \u00ebsht\u00eb vler\u00ebsuar p\u00ebr arritje p\u00ebr udh\u00ebheq\u00ebsi nga Ambasada Amerikane. Ajo gjithashtu \u00ebsht\u00eb lobiste edhe p\u00ebr ligje t\u00eb tjera nga fusha e sh\u00ebndet\u00ebsis\u00eb, ekonomis\u00eb dhe sociale p\u00ebr sigurimin e mund\u00ebsive t\u00eb barabarta t\u00eb grave dhe burrave n\u00eb Republik\u00ebn e Maqedonis\u00eb s\u00eb Veriut. Dy mandate \u00ebsht\u00eb pjes\u00eb e grupit k\u00ebshillimor nd\u00ebr &#8211; resorial p\u00ebr mund\u00ebsi t\u00eb barabarta t\u00eb grave dhe burrave. Pik\u00ebrisht me t\u00eb, flasim p\u00ebr rolin e gruas n\u00eb shoq\u00ebri.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cila \u00ebsht\u00eb nevoja p\u00ebr shoqat\u00eb t\u00eb lobit t\u00eb grave t\u00eb Maqedonis\u00eb?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dimitrievska:<\/strong> Lobi i grave t\u00eb Maqedonis\u00eb u themelua n\u00eb vitin 2000 si nevoj\u00eb q\u00eb struktura t\u00eb ndryshme nga shoq\u00ebria, si p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsues t\u00eb shoqatave civile, partive politike, sindikata dhe media, t\u00eb bashkohen rreth nj\u00eb q\u00ebllimi dhe t\u00eb aktivizohen n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb koordinuar n\u00eb zgjidhjen e nj\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtjeje t\u00eb caktuar, duke ofruar m\u00eb shum\u00eb alternativa p\u00ebr veprim. I nj\u00ebjti synim mbetet edhe sot. \u00c7do proces i zgjidhjes s\u00eb nj\u00eb problemi t\u00eb caktuar duhet par\u00eb nga nj\u00eb aspekt tjet\u00ebr dhe nga syt\u00eb e t\u00eb gjitha segmenteve q\u00eb p\u00ebrb\u00ebjn\u00eb zgjidhjen p\u00ebr t\u00eb pasur nj\u00eb propozim zgjidhje kuptimplot\u00eb dhe funksionale. Secili\/a nga an\u00ebtar\u00ebt\/et ka rolin dhe kapacitetet dhe p\u00ebrvoj\u00ebn e vet, q\u00eb kontribuojn\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb qasje sistematike n\u00eb avancimin e \u00e7\u00ebshtjeve t\u00eb caktuara p\u00ebr t\u00eb cilat punojm\u00eb dhe avokojm\u00eb p\u00ebr zgjidhjen e drejt\u00eb t\u00eb tyre.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c7far\u00eb roli keni n\u00eb shoq\u00ebri si lobi i grave?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dimitrievska:<\/strong> N\u00eb shoq\u00ebri, ne jemi t\u00eb njohur p\u00ebr bashkimin e grupeve dhe ideologjive t\u00eb ndryshme, por edhe p\u00ebr lobimin n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb efikase dhe efektive p\u00ebr zgjidhje t\u00eb drejta, qoft\u00eb p\u00ebrmes dokumenteve zyrtare apo ligjeve n\u00eb nivel komb\u00ebtar, por edhe n\u00eb nivel lokal n\u00eb komunat, duke u p\u00ebrpjekur t\u00eb hapim procesin e pjes\u00ebmarrjes s\u00eb qytetar\u00ebve n\u00eb krijimin e politikave lokale. Roli i lobit t\u00eb grave \u00ebsht\u00eb mbi t\u00eb gjitha gjetja e m\u00ebnyr\u00ebs m\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb dhe gjith\u00ebp\u00ebrfshir\u00ebse gjat\u00eb inicimit t\u00eb zgjidhjeve, amendamenteve, dokumenteve, politikave dhe ligjeve.<\/p>\n<p><strong>P\u00ebr \u00e7far\u00eb jeni krenare n\u00eb lobin e grave t\u00eb Maqedonis\u00eb?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dimitrievska:<\/strong> Jemi krenare p\u00ebr rezultatet, q\u00eb p\u00ebrb\u00ebjn\u00eb nj\u00eb num\u00ebr t\u00eb madh zgjidhjesh ligjore q\u00eb kan\u00eb angazhimet tona, por edhe p\u00ebr amendamentet ku jemi rikthyer me q\u00ebllim t\u00eb kemi nj\u00eb shoq\u00ebri m\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00eb ku grat\u00eb dhe burrat do t\u00eb kishin pozicione t\u00eb barabarta fillestare, pa dallim n\u00ebse b\u00ebhet fjal\u00eb p\u00ebr Kodin zgjedhor, ligjet n\u00eb ekonomi, pun\u00eb sociale dhe t\u00eb ngjashme. Jemi krenare q\u00eb edhe n\u00eb momentet m\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebshtira t\u00eb p\u00ebr\u00e7arjes ku p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb konflikteve t\u00eb caktuara lidhur me p\u00ebrkat\u00ebsin\u00eb etnike apo partiake kur partit\u00eb nuk komunikonin me nj\u00ebra-tjetr\u00ebn ne ishim nj\u00eb ur\u00eb p\u00ebrmes s\u00eb cil\u00ebs kaloheshin dallimet dhe nj\u00eb vend ku grat\u00eb takoheshin dhe flisnin hapur dhe pa rezerva p\u00ebr q\u00ebndrimet dhe pik\u00ebpamjet e tyre pa d\u00ebnuar nj\u00ebra-tjetr\u00ebn edhe pse n\u00eb publik ka pasur moratorium p\u00ebr dialog.<\/p>\n<p>Jemi krenare q\u00eb pavar\u00ebsisht se t\u00eb gjith\u00eb i p\u00ebrkasim ideologjive t\u00eb ndryshme, megjithat\u00eb ende gjejm\u00eb nj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb punuar n\u00eb zgjidhjet e problemeve t\u00eb p\u00ebrditshme q\u00eb kan\u00eb grat\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pse \u00ebsht\u00eb i r\u00ebnd\u00ebsish\u00ebm nd\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsimi p\u00ebr pjes\u00ebmarrjen e grave n\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtjet qytetare dhe politike n\u00eb nj\u00eb shoq\u00ebri si kjo e jona?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dimitrievska:<\/strong> Nd\u00ebrgjegj\u00ebsimi p\u00ebr t\u00eb marr\u00eb pjes\u00eb drejtp\u00ebrdrejt n\u00eb proceset e nd\u00ebrtimit t\u00eb politikave \u00ebsht\u00eb imperativ p\u00ebr \u00e7do qytetar t\u00eb nd\u00ebrgjegjsh\u00ebm n\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha demokracit\u00eb. Pjes\u00ebmarrja e qytetar\u00ebve nis me zgjedhjen e p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsuesve t\u00eb tyre n\u00eb organet vendimmarr\u00ebse, por nuk p\u00ebrfundon me kaq. Shoq\u00ebrit\u00eb demokratike kan\u00eb nj\u00eb arkitektur\u00eb q\u00eb qytetar\u00ebt t\u00eb p\u00ebrfshihen n\u00eb vendime p\u00ebrmes nj\u00eb s\u00ebr\u00eb instrumentesh t\u00eb tjera, por kryesisht p\u00ebrmes krijimit t\u00eb drejtp\u00ebrdrejt\u00eb t\u00eb politikave komunale. Grat\u00eb kan\u00eb nevoja t\u00eb ndryshme nga burrat n\u00eb jet\u00ebn e p\u00ebrditshme. M\u00ebnyra e jetes\u00ebs dhe normat shoq\u00ebrore ende mbartin paragjykime se \u00e7far\u00eb i takon gruas dhe \u00e7far\u00eb jo. P\u00ebr t\u00eb shmangur k\u00ebto paragjykime, por edhe p\u00ebr t\u00eb zgjidhur \u00e7\u00ebshtjet e grave, dikush duhet t\u00eb inicioj\u00eb nj\u00eb dialog aktiv se si t\u00eb p\u00ebrmir\u00ebsohet gjendja. Tani p\u00ebr tani, organizatat e shoq\u00ebris\u00eb civile, partit\u00eb politike dhe nj\u00eb grup aktivist\u00ebsh t\u00eb p\u00ebrkushtuar, po e b\u00ebjn\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Si t\u00eb iniciohet pjes\u00ebmarrja e grave n\u00eb vend?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dimitrievska:<\/strong> N\u00ebse flasim p\u00ebr pjes\u00ebmarrjen e grave n\u00eb politik\u00eb, at\u00ebher\u00eb duhet t\u00eb flasim p\u00ebr q\u00ebndrimin e partive politike ndaj grave n\u00eb partin\u00eb e tyre. Kjo do t\u00eb thot\u00eb se partit\u00eb duhet t\u00eb ken\u00eb pjes\u00ebmarrjen e grave n\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha organet vendimmarr\u00ebse, t&#8217;i nominojn\u00eb ato n\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha funksionet n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb barabart\u00eb dhe t\u00eb mos tentojn\u00eb t&#8217;i anashkalojn\u00eb dokumentet e brendshme partiake dhe kuotat tashm\u00eb ekzistuese. Nj\u00ebkoh\u00ebsisht, pal\u00ebt duhet t\u00eb ken\u00eb edhe forum ku do t\u00eb zhvillohet nj\u00eb dialog, ku t\u00eb gjith\u00eb do t\u00eb ndajn\u00eb pik\u00ebpamjet e tyre dhe diskutimi nuk do t\u00eb zhvillohet n\u00eb nj\u00eb rreth t\u00eb ngusht\u00eb. N\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn koh\u00eb, gjuha e urrejtjes p\u00ebrmes rrjeteve sociale, e cila p\u00ebrhapet si zjarr ndaj grave n\u00eb politik\u00eb me lloj-lloj ofendimesh personale dhe familjare, heziton nj\u00eb num\u00ebr t\u00eb madh grash t\u00eb futen n\u00eb uj\u00ebrat politike.<\/p>\n<p>Nga ana tjet\u00ebr, kur flasim p\u00ebr organizata qytetare, at\u00ebher\u00eb mendoj se ato jan\u00eb t\u00eb ndryshme dhe secila grua ka bindjen dhe m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn e saj t\u00eb pun\u00ebs, por edhe \u00e7\u00ebshtje interesi, dhe zgjedh se n\u00eb cil\u00ebn organizat\u00eb do t\u00eb jet\u00eb an\u00ebtare. Nj\u00eb num\u00ebr i madh grash veprojn\u00eb si aktiviste dhe promovuese individuale p\u00ebr t\u00eb drejtat e grave, duke p\u00ebrdorur mediat sociale. Ne gjithmon\u00eb jemi pro asaj q\u00eb grat\u00eb t\u00eb ken\u00eb zgjedhje, si p\u00ebr at\u00eb se si dhe ku do t\u00eb marrin pjes\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cilat tema jan\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme n\u00eb vendin ton\u00eb p\u00ebr grat\u00eb, p\u00ebr t\u00eb cilat duhet punuar?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dimitrievska:<\/strong> T\u00eb gjitha temat q\u00eb kan\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb me jetes\u00ebn jan\u00eb tema si p\u00ebr meshkujt ashtu edhe p\u00ebr femrat. Nuk ekziston ndonj\u00eb tem\u00eb q\u00eb mund t\u00eb themi se \u00ebsht\u00eb tipike p\u00ebr femrat apo tipike p\u00ebr meshkujt. Ne angazhohemi q\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha \u00e7\u00ebshtjet t\u00eb d\u00ebgjohet, se si nj\u00eb zgjidhje e ve\u00e7ant\u00eb do t\u00eb ndikoj\u00eb jo vet\u00ebm mbi burrat, por edhe mbi grat\u00eb. Nga arsimi, sh\u00ebndet\u00ebsia, ekonomia, mbrojtja, diplomacia dhe gjith\u00e7ka q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme p\u00ebr jet\u00ebn, \u00ebsht\u00eb e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme p\u00ebr t\u00eb dy gjinit\u00eb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00c7far\u00eb nismash u duhen grave p\u00ebr t\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb ndryshime, \u00e7far\u00eb po b\u00ebni Ju n\u00eb lidhje me k\u00ebt\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Dimitrievska:<\/strong> Ndryshimet m\u00eb t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme gjithmon\u00eb fillojn\u00eb thell\u00eb brenda nesh, kur nj\u00eb pyetje na shqet\u00ebson dhe duam t\u00eb gjejm\u00eb nj\u00eb zgjidhje. P\u00ebr t\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb ndryshime, duhet t\u00eb bashkohemi dhe t\u00eb p\u00ebrdorim kapacitetet e t\u00eb tjer\u00ebve. \u00cbsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme q\u00eb grat\u00eb t\u00eb din\u00eb se ka zgjidhje p\u00ebr \u00e7do problem, por nevojitet aktiviz\u00ebm dhe veprim i organizuar, ve\u00e7an\u00ebrisht i pasuruar me p\u00ebrvoj\u00ebn se si zgjidhen \u00e7\u00ebshtjet n\u00eb institucione dhe nga vendimmarr\u00ebsit. Nga puna jon\u00eb e m\u00ebparshme, ne kemi p\u00ebrvoj\u00ebn p\u00ebr t&#8217;i vendosur \u00e7\u00ebshtjet n\u00eb agjend\u00ebn politike dhe grat\u00eb e din\u00eb se n\u00ebse zgjidhja e nj\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtjeje t\u00eb r\u00ebnd\u00ebsishme k\u00ebrkon nj\u00eb ndryshim ligjor, tek ne do t\u00eb gjejn\u00eb aleat\u00eb relevant\u00eb, me p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb, me q\u00ebllime t\u00eb mira.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Daniella Dimitrievska, drejtoresh\u00eb e Lobit t\u00eb grave Maqedonis\u00eb, e cila ka organizuar m\u00eb shum\u00eb se 250 seminare p\u00ebr politikane dhe audienca t\u00eb tjera n\u00eb tema q\u00eb kan\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb me t\u00eb drejtat e grave dhe ngritjen e kapaciteteve si p\u00ebr individ\u00eb ashtu edhe p\u00ebr p\u00ebrfaq\u00ebsues t\u00eb institucioneve. 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